Any recent pics of this jacket ?
Any recent pics of this jacket ?
I'd say the Langliz is the same weight but softer? My Bates Terminator II is so damn heavy, it's roughly the same consutrction and size as my Vanson and LW, but it's heavier, which could only be explained by the density of the leather.It's not the weight of the Jacket that is the issue with LW. My Langlitz Jackets weigh the same and the Leather is about the same ounce weight. It's the "nature" of the leather.
Envy your lifetyle man! Motorcycle riding around the world in a cool leather jacket??? by the way, check out the local's boots.Some thoughts on my one and only Lost Worlds jacket:
I bought it from a store so didn't deal with Stu directly. The jacket is a Lost Worlds Buco Rider, don't know the exact weight, but it's a heavy-weight horsehide. I bought it in the winter of 2012-13. I haven't worn it every day, but have put in some respectable mileage on it. It's heavy but not overly stiff like my Vanson jackets when new (I LOVE Vanson btw!). It's now nicely broken in and fits me well and comfortably, but not to the point of being super-creased & showing lots of patina. It has a few scuffs from some tumbles I encountered while riding over rough terrain. Each time the jacket and the armoured shirt I was wearing underneath protected me well.
The jacket is very practical and the features work well - pockets all hold stuff well, the pocket-inner is thick & sturdy; zippers zip well; throat latch works to keep things, well, latched up; sturdy side-buckles can tighten waist if need be; full-action back makes things comfortable reaching out to the handlebars; rayon lining is comfortable pulling jacket over everything from bare skin, t-shirts, above-mentioned armoured shirts, fleece jackets, etc. Fit is roomy without being overly baggy (don't quote me but I heard newer cafe-style jackets are slimmer fitting than mine). The leather itself, however, does not seem to be as eye-catching as other heavy-weight leathers out there, be it Vanson comp weight or Aero FQHH, etc. - being a bit nitpicky now ...
Anyways, a few pics. I've shared these in other threads before, but thought they might be relevant here ...
Lost Worlds in a lost world - April 2014, riding to a far corner of the Himalayas, borderland of Bhutan & Arunachal (India).
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Hanging out with the locals, cafe at the end of the road (dirt trail actually), eastern Himalayas:
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With bros from my MC club, scenic Central Bhutan.
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... and here's how the jacket looked when relatively new (early summer 2013), top of Bear Mountain, NY State, with my '06 Bonneville that I regret letting go of ...
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Thought this is as good a thread as "Aero Leather" if there was one. I want to know the comparison of Aero's J-24 vs LW's. I'd suppose LW is the king of Buco repro these days? How does the proportion/fit/mobility compare? I never owned a LW J-24, had a Legedary USA one by Schott, it was pretty decent, like second skin, but in retrospect, it was a kids' jacket, light, thin and nowhere near as beefy as a LW or Aero.
@Carlos840 I believe Carlos can give you a good statement about LW J24. He owned both LW and Legendary USA buco j24.Thought this is as good a thread as "Aero Leather" if there was one. I want to know the comparison of Aero's J-24 vs LW's. I'd suppose LW is the king of Buco repro these days? How does the proportion/fit/mobility compare? I never owned a LW J-24, had a Legedary USA one by Schott, it was pretty decent, like second skin, but in retrospect, it was a kids' jacket, light, thin and nowhere near as beefy as a LW or Aero.
Thought this is as good a thread as "Aero Leather" if there was one. I want to know the comparison of Aero's J-24 vs LW's. I'd suppose LW is the king of Buco repro these days? How does the proportion/fit/mobility compare? I never owned a LW J-24, had a Legedary USA one by Schott, it was pretty decent, like second skin, but in retrospect, it was a kids' jacket, light, thin and nowhere near as beefy as a LW or Aero.
Carlos's Jacket you can see has basically little or no break in. You can buy lots of LW's like that. Since nobody can break them in and make them personally fit, you can find relative deals on like new jackets. On the sleeves of Carlos's jacket, you can see the strange stretch marks that are present on all HH from LW. This is part of the plastic-ky kind of feel I mentioned. If you want a Jacket that will prepetually look new, LW is it. Not knockin your jacket, so much as pointing out things I havew noticed on them.
I did pay my dues, My J-24 Custom was about $2500.
LW leather always has some quirks.
The HH of the A-2s, have the Plastic thing going on, the stretch marks, the fact that when they wear on the sleeves they turn black for some reason. The never go limp and form to you. Had my Dubow HH A-2 for over a decade I think. I'm keepin' it
The G-1 leather quirk is a good thing. I've had maybe 20 Navy Jackets, most authentic. Maybe 4 Reproductions. I've never had Goat as supple as the LW G-1, which makes me like it. The LW Goat also has those strange LW stretch marks. I think Stu has 'em slaughtered when they are preganant! All other goat I have has some amount of firm hand to it. Withe the exception of my Langlitz Goat Padded Pocket Columbia in Dark chocolate Goat. It is pretty supple. Keeping the LW G-1 forever also.
The main thing you can come back to is this. Why does Stuart say all the crazy things about real men and real jackets, and metrosexuals and all the other stuff on his ad copy? Because this is what he writes up after dealing with people complaining about his jackets.
Don't get me wrong, I LIKE Lost Worlds. But I know what it is and what it isn't. You look at the quirks and figure out if you can live with it or not.
If you had a Langlitz and it didn't fit, it was either second hand or you didn't have them fix it. They will take the jacket back, and give you your money back or work on it till it's right, period. Then it will feel like a custom glove on you. Padded Pocket Columbia in Goat, that's a 1000 mile a day riding jacket for those that do that type of thing, and then do it again the next day. Their style may be an acquired taste. Part of what helps you acquire it is wearing one. They're that nice.
I... Wouldn't say that. I think it's too... Um, thin to be workboot leather. There, I said it. It's just the perfect kind of hide you'd want your motorcycle/work jacket be made in, without being overly heavy or stiff. But for a footwear leather, I definitely would prefer something heavier. [/QUOTE]The rest of the difference is just animal species, as expected, the cow is more supple and stretchy, HH doesn't stretch. The LW HH is more matte, but it's just a finishing choice. For me, LW leather is shoe leather, just like Horween CXL., good for workboots.
It does. Stu's mid-weight hide is 3-3.5 oz. If you can get him to actually use that hide. Many have tried, many failed.If his black HH comes in less than 4oz, I'd go for it for a jacket, no problem, and I'd probably choose it over CXL.
There isn't anything special about the way J-24 is made. It's just a... Leather jacket. Nothing in particular stood on RMC's J-24 that I have tried, compared to Aero's version. Not sure what you mean? Cool details and pocket features aside, it's just your standard cross zipper bike jacket with a full action back.J24 is more accurate or a run of the mill base template, and if so, which other jacket share the same template.
Since nobody can break them in and make them personally fit
This a fallacy as @Carlos840 showed you painstakingly, and I will add this
This has moulded to my shape.
You didn't like LW, that's fine, they are pretty unique and not to everyone's taste. Nobody will look down on you for this. We are lucky to have a lot of interesting makers.