Look for the Union Label

[buler]

Union label booth, 1950.

 

[rlk]

 

[Joshbru3]

I just found this article from a 1901 American Federalist Journal. It does state the 1896 date, but also says:

"It may be well to state, however, that in 1885 both national organizations met through the agency of their respective boards of directors, and adopted a union label, calling it the label of The United Hatters of North America. Since that time and up to 1896 both organizations jointly paid all of the expenses of the label."


Unless i'm reading this wrong, it appears that the United Hatters of North America label has actually existed since 1885 and was supported by the two separate organizations. It wasn't until 1896 that the two separate organizations became one and ceased using their old organization names and from then on was solely known as the United Hatters of North America.





http://books.google.com/books?id=HZpHAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA79&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U3NZcLWPtGLFk_bXaJpYGswurYVVA&ci=3%2C26%2C959%2C1453&edge=0

 

[buler]

Great find, Josh! Add this to the hat rosetta stone.

B

 

[fedoracentric]

Isn't that one above the British hatter's union?

 

[fedoracentric]

I just did a search for hat unions and found a web page with this even older union label. Apparently this union went defunct in 1896.
I didn't see this label here so thought I'd steal the image and put it here.

 

[Brad Bowers]

I just did a search for hat unions and found a web page with this even older union label. Apparently this union went defunct in 1896.
I didn't see this label here so thought I'd steal the image and put it here.

Cool! That would probably be the label of the Hat Finishers, one of the two organizations that merged in 1896 to become United Hatters of North America.

Brad

 

[1mach1]

Union label booth, 1950.

Very cool.

 

[Joshbru3]

Great find, Josh! Add this to the hat rosetta stone.

B

Thanks, Bill!! I was REALLY excited to find this.

I can't find the Rosetta Stone thread, do you have the link for it?

 

[buler]

Thanks, Bill!! I was REALLY excited to find this.

I can't find the Rosetta Stone thread, do you have the link for it?

I just meant the cumulative Fedora Lounge hats section rosetta stone. Not a specific thread.

B

 

[guitarmasta12]

Here's a United Hatters Cap and Millinery stamp on my Stephen L. Stetson.

 

[buler]

This has been mentioned before in other threads, but I wanted to consolidate this information here. The small printed image in the top left corner of the union stamp is known as the union bug, or printer's bug. It signifies that the union label was printed by a union printer and is followed on the right (or sometimes underneath) by a number. This number identifies the union print shop. The number can be seen printed in both black and red on various examples in our photos.

B

 

[splintercellsz]

 

[Mr. Speakeasy]

Oh boy that is a nice bunch of hats I have seen in this thread! That last one is interesting, what size is it?

 

[guitarmasta12]

I respect your experience certainly, as it exceeds mine, but I am fairly sure that red numerals on the right side of a union label indicate year of product manafacture in an AFL or CIO affiliated organization. It was, among other things, indicative of "the local" being current in its financial obligations (dues) to "the international", and consequently able to use the union label. The *bug* is also good to corroborate any conclusions... A *slanted bug* is later, and wouldnt be on a label, say prior to 1940.

What your saying is from the 40s and up is a slanted bug? Would make sense. My navy Mallory has one with a slanted bug and i believe it from 45' to 49'

 

[buler]

Found in google books:

The Headgear Worker

The official organ of the United Cloth Hat and Cap Makers of North America


vol 1-2
https://books.google.com/books?id=o...4Q6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=the hat worker&f=false



vol 3-4
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=the+hat+worker#tbm=bks&q=editions:yBAMCNyagwYC

 

[buler]

A straw/panama sticker post-1934.

 

[Asudef]

Sorry to dig this up but is that last post of the Straw Panama of a slanted bug or horizontal bug?

My hat has the same corner logo with a red 19 underneath and it is from anywhere between 1927 and 1981. Possibly to the 1940s if the 'Mallory 1823' mark is to be believed.

 

[splintercellsz]

Mell's Mell-o-Felt

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[splintercellsz]

1920's Rothschild

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