Is this a common symptom of hatacosis???

[portolan]

Since joining this forum I now am seeing hats everywhere. Is seeing hats on people and in places you never would have before a symptom of hatacosis?

For example, today I was researching an article I am writing on "The Religious Antecedents of the Mexican Revolution." Now isn't that a subject in which everyone is interested?

So, today I am researching the religious views of Pancho Villa and run across a note that when Pancho formed his famous Dorado brigade, (U.S. General Hugh Scott said they were then the finest cavalry in North America!) I read that he bought all 300 of them Stetson 10X hats! Six months ago I would have kept on reading. Now I search the net for a picture of these famed riders in their hats. What is worse, I succeeded! Here it is....Pancho Villa and his Golden Dorados, all clad in brand new Stetsons! Hatacosis.....it is definitely contagious....all newbies to this forum should quickly run away. I see hats, everywhere...airports, malls, and yes, even in the literature and photos of the Mexican revolution!

 

[ortega76]

Since joining this forum I now am seeing hats everywhere. Is seeing hats on people and in places you never would have before a symptom of hatacosis?

For example, today I was researching an article I am writing on "The Religious Antecedents of the Mexican Revolution." Now isn't that a subject in which everyone is interested?

So, today I am researching the religious views of Pancho Villa and run across a note that when Pancho formed his famous Dorado brigade, (U.S. General Hugh Scott said they were then the finest cavalry in North America!) I read that he bought all 300 of them Stetson 10X hats! Six months ago I would have kept on reading. Now I search the net for a picture of these famed riders in their hats. What is worse, I succeeded! Here it is....Pancho Villa and his Golden Dorados, all clad in brand new Stetsons! Hatacosis.....it is definitely contagious....all newbies to this forum should quickly run away. I see hats, everywhere...airports, malls, and yes, even in the literature and photos of the Mexican revolution!

My great-great-grandfather is in that picture. No joke.

As for the article, I am always fascinated by the origins of social justice movements.

 

[RBH]

Cool find Porto!!!
REALLY COOL :eusa_clap to know ortega, do you know where he is at in the photo?

 

[B. F. Socaspi]

Relating to your article but not hats:

Are you including the EZLN's uprising as part of the Mexican Revolution (I know some sociologists do). If so, should be an interesting read, since they believe that, for the revolution to be effective, it must be secular. Compared y contrasted and all.

 

[portolan]

The EZLN truly believe they are the heirs to the

revolutions of the early twentieth century. They would identify an unbroken line back to the ideology of Zapata....Having said that, no, my article for the Journal of the Southwest will focus only on the period from 1910 through the Cristero wars of the mid 1920's. However, I would maintain that a belief that a revolution must be secular in order to succeed is, in itself a form of a religious antecedent to rebellion. Just like anti-clericalism is a form of clericalism. Is everyone else asleep by now?

BTW....it appears that the gentlemen of the revolutionary period in Mexico rarely, if ever were photographed without a hat on. I have counted over twenty different hats on photos of Villa. Zapata was king of the wide brim sombrero. Abraham Gonzalez had some great bowlers.

 

[ortega76]

Cool find Porto!!!
REALLY COOL :eusa_clap to know ortega, do you know where he is at in the photo?

Oops, slight error. It's d be my great-great uncle. If I recall correctly, the second row towards the right but I'm not completely sure which one. He was killed in battle with Presidential forces.

My great-great grandfather, Jesus Salvador Ortega Sr., rode with ZAPATA. Later shot by the provisional government when Zapata's forces were unsatisfied with land reforms. Interestingly, my grandfather was tried in absentia as a murderer and traitor when he ambushed the comanding officer for revenge. Let's just say that's how the Ortegas left Mexico and went as far as they possibly could- Chicago, IL!

 

[dhermann1]

Portolan, don't be surprised if you find that there are not only people interested in that kind of topic, but also people who may know something about it and have worthwhile bits of knowledge to contribute. This forum has some amazing people!
Somehow I recently stumbled across a letter to the editor written by my great grandfather to the NY Times in 1911 on the subject of the rebels. He spent 12 years in Chihuahua trying (with typically singular lack of success) to get rich. The gist is that the rebels are humbug. I'll look for the link and edit into this post, if I can.
Welcome to the Lounge. You'll know when you've gotten a lethal dose of the disease when you find yourself bidding on Ebay on a really cool Stetson or Knox or Resistol that you know you really don't need but it's just too nice a lid to pass up.

 

[B. F. Socaspi]

revolutions of the early twentieth century. They would identify an unbroken line back to the ideology of Zapata....Having said that, no, my article for the Journal of the Southwest will focus only on the period from 1910 through the Cristero wars of the mid 1920's. However, I would maintain that a belief that a revolution must be secular in order to succeed is, in itself a form of a religious antecedent to rebellion. Just like anti-clericalism is a form of clericalism. Is everyone else asleep by now?

BTW....it appears that the gentlemen of the revolutionary period in Mexico rarely, if ever were photographed without a hat on. I have counted over twenty different hats on photos of Villa. Zapata was king of the wide brim sombrero. Abraham Gonzalez had some great bowlers.

I would agree with you. Claiming it secular is certainly lending itself to a religious (or lack thereof) precedent.

And I think a defining characteristic of a true revolution is a unique hat. Le bonnet rouge, the tricorne, the sombrero..and of course the obligatory Che Beret.

 

[Dewhurst]

Yes...

As my first post here on the Lounge I should go ahead and make this concession: I see hats!

Sometimes I watch entire movies and only realize at the end that I barely even looked at the actors and what was happening. As far as my brain was concerned, it was just a film with hats floating around. Wonderful hats to watch for hours.

 

[Slim Portly]

... I think a defining characteristic of a true revolution is a unique hat. Le bonnet rouge, the tricorne, the sombrero..and of course the obligatory Che Beret.

¡Viva la Fedora Revolución!

As my first post here on the Lounge I should go ahead and make this concession: I see hats!

Sometimes I watch entire movies and only realize at the end that I barely even looked at the actors and what was happening. As far as my brain was concerned, it was just a film with hats floating around. Wonderful hats to watch for hours.

Just two weeks ago I was watching The Maltese Falcon on DVD and I was 45 minutes into it before I realized that I had no idea what was going on. The suits! The hats! The rewind buttton!

 

[KY Gentleman]

Welcome to the Lounge Dewhurst!

 

[Lou]

I too am new here and have started noticing hats. I'm mainly looking at what kind of hats people wear and how it looks on them. When I learn more about the hats themselves, I'll start taking note of that.

 

[Dewhurst]

Welcome to the Lounge Dewhurst!

Thank you. I am pleased to be here.

 

[PabloElFlamenco]

Portolán, hombre, and wasn't Pancho Villa himself shot to death in his car very near Chihuahua?? offtopic: I know).
A mexican sombrero (the real kind, not the stuff sold to tourists) is something missing in my collection; seen some nice (if dusty) ones in the museum for popular arts in Mexico City.
But I think my dear wife would start ...una revolución anti-sombrista...[huh]

 

[portolan]

Vintage Sombreros

You know, you raise a good point. Vintage sombreros are missing from my collection of revolution era stuff as well. There are many antiquities dealers around my part of Chihuahua. I will have to get them looking.

In that regard, does anyone have any or know of any literature on the sombrero? Any coffee table type books or articles? Seriously.....yes I am serious.....

And yes, Villa was assassinated in Parral, Chihuahua in July of 1923. It is right on the Durango border and was where he often lived, and unfortunately where he was killed. Modern scholarship seems to put the blame for the assassination on Obregon and Calles. Villa supported de la Huerta for the presidential elections instead of Calles, who he somewhat despised.

 

[indycop]

Welcome to the lounge Dewhurst!

I have to watch movies many times now because I look for the hats and miss the movie...:eusa_doh: