HELP - Does anyone know this vintage jacket?!?

[ceresce]

Hey Guys,

Texting from New York.

I found this old Talon Zipper jacket, probably 30s/40s without any tag or anything.

The inside has been redone.

Does anyone recognize the type of the leather, brand and even the value of it?

Much appreciated
C.

 

[photo2u]

Beautiful jacket. It looks like an early goat, 40s Californian. Regarding price, depends on size and condition to me. Most of those original vintage jackets tend to show up in the smaller sizes. A vintage size 46 will sell higher than a vintage size 40.

 

[ceresce]

Beautiful jacket. It looks like an early goat, 40s Californian. Regarding price, depends on size and condition to me. Most of those original vintage jackets tend to show up in the smaller sizes. A vintage size 46 will sell higher than a vintage size 40.

It has still some years to go, no cracks or breaking leather spots.
The linen has been changed and the zippers all are working fine. How would you price it? Its a 40 in size.

Trying to understand if what I'm buying is under or over priced.

Thanks

 

[tmitchell59]

Beautiful jacket. Does look like goatskin. Take a picture of the main zipper pull and the stop box on the zipper assembly. The ball and chain are typically 30s early 40s.

The originality of the main zipper will also effect price.

You need to know the size by the numbers; measurements.

 

[ceresce]

The main zipper is also original as the others, after a quick look i have seen written on the inside, USA and something else which i need a lense for it.

Unfortunately it is not with me rn.

 

[tmitchell59]

Trying to understand if what I'm buying is under or over priced.

I would have easily paid the amount on the tag.

 

[tmitchell59]

The main zipper is also original as the others, after a quick look i have seen written on the inside, USA and something else which i need a lense for it.

Unfortunately it is not with me rn.

here is a Sunrise Talon common on jackets from this era. This zipper has a date code that tells month an year.

 

[ceresce]

here is a Sunrise Talon common on jackets from this era. This zipper has a date code that tells month an year.

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good to know! Do you have an example of how its written on the zipper? Also, what is the fair value of the jacket? the amount written or above?
Pit to pit is 23 while shoulder is 18 and arms 26

 

[tmitchell59]

The code is on the bottom of the stop box.
This code is K 0= November 1940.

 

[ceresce]

Is there a table where to find the legend of the zipper year?

 

[tmitchell59]

K = the 11th month of the year, A = the First month of the year. The number is the year 0 = 1940.

The jacket my have another zipper which has the same code, but a different location.

 

[AHP91]

The main zipper is also original as the others, after a quick look i have seen written on the inside, USA and something else which i need a lense for it.

Unfortunately it is not with me rn.

The main zipper does not appear to be original.

 

[ceresce]

The main zipper does not appear to be original.

from what can you see that? And how should the original be? thanks

 

[photo2u]

from what can you see that? And how should the original be? thanks

Look at the inside part of the leather jacket. Sometimes you can see an older perforation from the previous zipper threats. If you can not see the perforation, then most likely is original. If the price tag in your images was the asking price, I would be all over that baby because it is my size and my favorite maker. The goat used in Californians is top-notch. I would rate that jacket and a complete steal.

 

[photo2u]

The jacket was made during a period in which Californian was producing that cool back design used in other notable jackets, such as the escape from New York jacket. T. Mitchell shared the "Talon Sunrise zipper box" that is the appropriate zipper for the jacket in question.
Our friend Jeo shared the: "table where to find the legend." Image.

Here is the original link: https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/a-guide-to-dating-talon-zippers-updated-and-revised.79464/

 

[photo2u]

The main zipper does not appear to be original.

I second that. It is too bad that some people do not put a little love in to a zipper replacement. Doing an excellent job is not that hard...

 

[Marc mndt]

My best guess would be that it's a late 30s Californian.

 

[ceresce]

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

 

[ceresce]

I got some more photos: