German & Austrian Hutmachers

[M Hatman]

Oberbayerische Hutfabrik gmbH. Miesbach "Edelweiss-Hut" "Chamois", 58 cm, 1955. The Chamois Felt is really fantastic (color, finish, hand) and easily dry creases. This is the first of a seven hat find.

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WOW...LOVE IT!!!!!

 

[M Hatman]

Rockel "Velourette", 58 cm possibly late 1950s. The finish is Chamois like so I would be interesting to know why Rockel chose the "Velourette" name. I have one other "Velourette" and it also has a Chamois like finish. I really like the Ribbon and Bow design. This is the second hat from my recent seven hat find.

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AND ANOTHER!?!?!?! WOWZA!!!!!

 

[mayserwegener]

WOW...LOVE IT!!!!!

AND ANOTHER!?!?!?! WOWZA!!!!!

Mark, Thank you!

 

[mayserwegener]

Getes, Georg Teufel & Sohn, Tuttlingen, "Antilope", 58 cm possibly late 1950s early 1960s. This hat is machine formed but has nice dimensions + style. I have never encounter Georg Teufel (&) Sohn, Tuttlingen so I will have to see if I can find any information. They don't come up on any of my lists. There is another Getes in this find.

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[mayserwegener]

Windsor, 58 cm, possibly late 1950s. The black felt has a soft hand and easily dry creases. I am still not sure what hat company made the Windsor mark but my guess is Mayser. This is the 5th hat of my recent 7 hat find.

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[mayserwegener]

Getes, Georg Teufel & Sohn, Tuttlingen "Meisterklasse" "Soleil", 58 cm possibly mid to late 1950s. The Light Gray Soleil Velour shows a nice gloss. This hat is machine formed but has nice dimensions + style. Also the 6th hat of 7 hat find.

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[mayserwegener]

Percy Donald "Antilope" "Iller", 56 cm possibly mid 1950s. The paper label in the is for whole-seller Valentin Schick so probably sourced (see photo below). The Iller river flows into Ulm so Mayser might be the source. It was common to see fanciful British brand names used in West Germany during this time period. The Felt has a great Chamois finish and is very pliable so easily dry creases. Also has a really nice form and thinner ribbon bow design. This is the 7th and final hat of my recent find.

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Valentin Schick Mannheim

 

[steur]

Percy Donald "Antilope" "Iller", 56 cm possibly mid 1950s. The paper label in the is for whole-seller Valentin Schick so probably sourced (see photo below). The Iller river flows into Ulm so Mayser might be the source. It was common to see fanciful British brand names used in West Germany during this time period. The Felt has a great Chamois finish and is very pliable so easily dry creases. Also has a really nice form and thinner ribbon bow design. This is the 7th and final hat of my recent find.

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Valentin Schick Mannheim

I think they're all quite spectacular, Steve. What a great find and in this condition too! Happened upon a Getes today as it happens (I may have before, but not remembered it), but that was a ho-hum seventies kind of hat. They did hang on to the brand name for a long time it seems though.

 

[steur]

As I was hathunting today I chanced upon this one. Couldn't bring it along, because I was already over my maximum allowed number of hats per customer, it wasn't my size and the colour is quite, errr striking. So not mine, but still of interest.
Hückel made by Tonak for the Spanish market.

It may look interesting because of its style, a longhair/velour western type of hat by Hückel, but the colour was much more towards a wine-red/burgundy than the more brownish colour you're seeing here. Never saw anything like this one by Hückel before.
As soon as I post the hats I did bring along, you'll understand why this one had to stay there.

 

[mayserwegener]

I think they're all quite spectacular, Steve. What a great find and in this condition too! Happened upon a Getes today as it happens (I may have before, but not remembered it), but that was a ho-hum seventies kind of hat. They did hang on to the brand name for a long time it seems though.

Stefan, Thanks again! The Getes in this find are machine formed and have heavier weight felt but good production quality and look. I couldn't find anything regarding their production capabilities.

 

[mayserwegener]

As I was hathunting today I chanced upon this one. Couldn't bring it along, because I was already over my maximum allowed number of hats per customer, it wasn't my size and the colour is quite, errr striking. So not mine, but still of interest.
Hückel made by Tonak for the Spanish market.
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It may look interesting because of its style, a longhair/velour western type of hat by Hückel, but the colour was much more towards a wine-red/burgundy than the more brownish colour you're seeing here. Never saw anything like this one by Hückel before.
As soon as I post the hats I did bring along, you'll understand why this one had to stay there.

Stefan, Definitely a bold color! Form and style wise it's similar to this Tonak - Hückel Guama Somberero (popular in Venezuela).

https://germanaustrianhats.invision...utfabrik-weilheim/?do=findComment&comment=652

 

[steur]

The first of a bunch of German and Austrian made hats I picked. I didn't make it to seven, like Steve did, but still worthwhile (in fact I can guarantee it).
Echter Rockel Velour in dark grey with some distinct lilac tones to it. Very cool colour which is why it had to come. No label in this one unfortunately, but the liner was glued, so I'm guessing mid to late sixties. Bound brim at 6cm and crown at 11cm at the center dent. Rockel did know how to do velour and this one shows it. Weighs 110 grams.

 

[steur]

Peschel in dark brown. Size 56 with the bound brim at 6,5cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Label only says quality "K" and not much else. I love these Peschel hats, because they always have a great hand to the felt and this one is no exception. Would have been even nicer if it was a Chevret, but I'll take it. Couldn't find anything on Hut-Schneider to date it, but I'm guessing somewhere in the fifties.

 

[mayserwegener]

Peschel in dark brown. Size 56 with the bound brim at 6,5cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Label only says quality "K" and not much else. I love these Peschel hats, because they always have a great hand to the felt and this one is no exception. Would have been even nicer if it was a Chevret, but I'll take it. Couldn't find anything on Hut-Schneider to date it, but I'm guessing somewhere in the fifties.

Stefan, Fantastic find! I don't believe I have seen those markings (liner, sweatband) before. I like everything about it.

 

[steur]

Whenever I go searching for vintage hats I find the highest number of Mayser and Wegener hats. Usually they are black homburgs and stingy brimmed seventies hats (especially from Wegener). I consider Mayser to be the better hatmaker, but Wegener did know how to get them right if they wanted to. For this one they wanted to.
Wegener Extra unlined in the colour Sylt. Size 58 with the bound brim at 7cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. Weighs 114 grams. I don't see that many unlined hats and certainly not by Wegener. The colours are great as well with the contrasting ribbon and brim binding, so I picked it up, even if it isn't my size.
Sold by Hut Wagner, Bahnhofstrasse 21, Limburg.

 

[steur]

FGM Bayerland quality "alba" velour in black. Size 57 (but has shrunk somewhat) with the brim at 7cm and the crown 11cm at the center dent. This is a substantial hat in every way and that won me over. Weighs 147 grams. FGM stands for Franz Gober München I believe and I have seen that @Garrett has posted one of these before. I think this one is older though.
Do I need another black velour hat? No, I don't, but if they're as cool as this one and have a 10 sharkgill bow it's impossible to leave it behind. It seems to naturally want an deep center crease, which causes the side to side taper.

 

[steur]

Hückel Platin velours backbow in green (yes, green). Size 56 with the raw edge brim at 5,5cm and the crown at 10cm at the center dent, Weighs 114 grams. All pre-war Hückel velour hats are exceptional and I've handled a few, but this one is the best one yet. As a testimony to its quality: it made me buy a deep green hat without hesitation and it landed me in the Adolf Hitlerstrasse of all places.
Wait, what? Let me explain. The hat was sold by Hut-Trescher of Freiburg and in the years 1937 until the end of WWII one of their shops was located in the Adolf Hitlerstrasse. And it says so on the sweatband. So it's quite easy to date: late thirties or maybe early forties. Save for the imprint on the liner flaking off, the hat is in excellent shape.
As an act of defiance I did put a cross-shaped basting stitch in the backbow to make it lie flat. I like it better that way.

It's all about the felt, guys.

 

[mayserwegener]

Whenever I go searching for vintage hats I find the highest number of Mayser and Wegener hats. Usually they are black homburgs and stingy brimmed seventies hats (especially from Wegener). I consider Mayser to be the better hatmaker, but Wegener did know how to get them right if they wanted to. For this one they wanted to.
Wegener Extra unlined in the colour Sylt. Size 58 with the bound brim at 7cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. Weighs 114 grams. I don't see that many unlined hats and certainly not by Wegener. The colours are great as well with the contrasting ribbon and brim binding, so I picked it up, even if it isn't my size.
Sold by Hut Wagner, Bahnhofstrasse 21, Limburg.

Stefan, Wow you made a great haul! It's difficult to find Wegener's from this time period with this type form. Also an added bonus regarding being non liner model.

 

[mayserwegener]

FGM Bayerland quality "alba" velour in black. Size 57 (but has shrunk somewhat) with the brim at 7cm and the crown 11cm at the center dent. This is a substantial hat in every way and that won me over. Weighs 147 grams. FGM stands for Franz Gober München I believe and I have seen that @Garrett has posted one of these before. I think this one is older though.
Do I need another black velour hat? No, I don't, but if they're as cool as this one and have a 10 sharkgill bow it's impossible to leave it behind. It seems to naturally want an deep center crease, which causes the side to side taper.

Stefan, Amazing find! This is a Franz Gober München.

"Dealer, as the company founded in 1902 by Franz Gober Bayerland in Munich, specializing in sports and trachten / costumes hats, which they purchased from various producers and sold via catalog to a wide radius."

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/57-franz-gober-münchen-f-g-m/

This Velour is really fantastic and in great condition. Also the liner and bow design. It's definitely 1930s maybe a bit older. I don't believe F.G.M. produced hats and nothing sticks out where I can identify the maker.

 

[mayserwegener]

Hückel Platin velours backbow in green (yes, green). Size 56 with the raw edge brim at 5,5cm and the crown at 10cm at the center dent, Weighs 114 grams. All pre-war Hückel velour hats are exceptional and I've handled a few, but this one is the best one yet. As a testimony to its quality: it made me buy a deep green hat without hesitation and it landed me in the Adolf Hitlerstrasse of all places.
Wait, what? Let me explain. The hat was sold by Hut-Trescher of Freiburg and in the years 1937 until the end of WWII one of their shops was located in the Adolf Hitlerstrasse. And it says so on the sweatband. So it's quite easy to date: late thirties or maybe early forties. Save for the imprint on the liner flaking off, the hat is in excellent shape.
As an act of defiance I did put a cross-shaped basting stitch in the backbow to make it lie flat. I like it better that way.

It's all about the felt, guys.

Stefan, Yes this is amazing Velour. JHS were the masters and this is no exception. It has Tracht elements so probably the reason for the vivid green. You weren't kidding regarding your hat hunting success.