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Engineer boots sizing, Chippewa, Wesco, Red Wing

Vintagestyle

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I searched the forum but didn't find any definitive answers about that ( maybe in the engineer boots topic but there are 166 pages or so ) , so i open a topic about it .

I would like to know how the Wesco engineer boots made on the MP 1339 last , size compared to the Chippewa 27863 11" engineer boots and the Red Wing 2268/2972 11" engineer boots ?

I wear 10 to 10,5 D with Chippewa 27863 engineer boots ,whereas the Red Wing 2972 i tried in 10D were too short ( for my left toe ,as my left foot is about 2 to 3 mm longer than my right foot ) !
It seems the 10,5 D fit me better for Red Wing 2972/2268 engineer boots , although i would have liked to try size 11 to see how it would fit me ( although it might be too big for my right foot ) .
I have measured about 28,3 cm for my right foot and about 28,5cm for my left foot ,so i don't really understand why it seems to correspond to 11 to 11,5 US size based on the conversion chart i found on bigblackboots.com ( or even 12 if i want to have some room for my left toe based on this chart ),whereas i usualy wear 10 to 10,5 D with Chippewa and 10,5 should be ok for Red Wing engineer boots !

Some seem to say they wear half size smaller for Red Wing engineer boots 2268/2972 , (let's say 10 as the person specified in his post ), compared to Wesco engineer boots made on 1339 MP last for which they wear a 1/2 size more than Red Wing (so 10,5 ) .
In another hand, i read on a website selling Wesco , to size Wesco boots 1/2 size smaller than regular US boots and shoes ( what some people here seem to say ) whereas some say to size those Wesco ( made on mp 1339 ) 1/2 size larger than Red Wing , while Standard & Strange specifies Wesco engineer boots made on mp 1339 last, size like Red Wing Iron Ranger , so i don't really know what rule to follow !
 
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Vintagestyle

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Thanks for you answer.
Yes it seems the width of the Wesco using the mp1339 last is narrower than the other boots as E width fit more like D and D width fits more like C from what i was told by some sellers/ shops selling some and Wesco . For me , the Red Wing 2268/2972 size 1/2 size smaller than chippewa 27863 , as for the Chipps i need 10 D or even 10,5 D ( depending on if the pair in 10D sizes big or small , some fit me while some are a bit too tight in length for my left foot , and i tried several pairs in both size) but for the Red Wing the pair i tried in 10D really sized too short whereas 10,5D was ok.
 

Edward

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Interested to hear more on this re width from those who own both. I have found that my UK8/EU42 Medium feet fit very nicely in a US9D from Red Wing and a US9E from Chippewa ('E' seemingly the 'standard' width the latter are made in). At some point I'd like to buy myself some Wescos (the dream being A Pair In Each Colour - i.e. brown, tan, oxblood, black!), but going mail order direct from them seems risky if I don't have my size right.
 

VestCoast

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I've got the Red Wing 2268/2972 (whichever has the steel toe) and three pairs of Wesco MP bosses, all in 10.5. I have both the D and E width in the bosses and find both widths comfortable. The width difference seems to me to be less than the volume difference from wearing different socks. I would not size down when going from Red Wing to Wesco.
 

Blackadder

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It really depends on what your actual foot width/shape is. My custom White's is EEE width. Since Red Wing mostly comes in D width, I have to go up 1 size when buying Red Wing D width engineer boots especially models with steel toe. For Wesco E width Boss (not patrol toe), going up half a size is enough for me. So yes, I do size down from Red Wing. I know it means Red Wing engineer boots do not actually fit me at all. I bought the Red Wing because I like the 8268 a lot (with the beige/off white roughout) and cannot seem to find other engineer boots with the same leather.
 

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