Could you give your opinion on these? (pictures)

[retrofashion]

Hi guys,

I need some expert opinions on these outfits:
http://www.freewebs.com/datasharing/

What do you think about them?
What time period do they evoke on you?
How is the fitting?
How’s the symmetry? Anything too short or too long?
Please ignore the tie, as I used the same one for all (and some without a tie even) and it's just a modern tie.

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[happyfilmluvguy]

They all look fine to me. The only change I would make is find more ties to match the jacket and pants. You can only wear a black tie for so many outfits. Also, ajust the suspenders. They look like they are ajusted too long.

 

[retrofashion]

Thanks for the input.
Yes, the tie was just to complete the outfits for the pictures. Still need to get more ties.
What kind of era would you say they remind you of?

 

[retrofashion]

Nobody has anything to add?
Before some mentioned that the low participation in my threads was because I as asking questions that people already answered a million times. But now I can't see how this can be the case.
Maybe it's just a closed club and I'm not welcome yet. Do I have to perform some fraternity like test to get in?

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Do I have to perform some fraternity like test to get in?

Yes ... and it involves boxer shorts, a viking helmet and tequila shots. lol

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[scotrace]

You're asking for something that will take quite a bit of time. This is obviously not a question that has been asked a lot, specifically, but it is something you can answer yourself by reading past threads, many of which cover style variations through the decades, fit, etc.


The pictured jackets all seem modern (1990 or later), from button stances, cuts, etc. Pants are low rise and not draped. The suspenders look good.

The fit looks good pretty much everywhere, for the time in which they're made. They all look perfectly fine. The tweed jacket is especially nice.

 

[StanleyVanBuren]

I'll just say that I'm no fan of 6x1 jackets and they give a definite 90s impression to me.

My understanding is that there were occasionally 6x1 jackets during the Golden Era, but they were extremely rare. But regardless of the era, it's simply a look I'm not fond of. Just my personal opinion.

 

[retrofashion]

Firstly, thanks for contributing to the thread. I appreciate it.

You're asking for something that will take quite a bit of time. This is obviously not a question that has been asked a lot, specifically, but it is something you can answer yourself by reading past threads, many of which cover style variations through the decades, fit, etc.

This may seem easy if you know what you are looking for. But going through tons of threads and seeing terms you don't even know what they mean or what things look like is not easy and doesn't help at all.

The pictured jackets all seem modern (1990 or later),

Actually, three of them are made in the 70's. The others I have no idea.

from button stances, cuts, etc. Pants are low rise and not draped. The suspenders look good.

I supposed you're talking about the pant's with the suspenders, where the jacket is off?

The fit looks good pretty much everywhere, for the time in which they're made. They all look perfectly fine. The tweed jacket is especially nice.

I was just worried that some of them may be too tight and worried about the sleeve length in some of them.


Could they pass as late 30's early 40's outfits?

 

[retrofashion]

I'll just say that I'm no fan of 6x1 jackets and they give a definite 90s impression to me.

My understanding is that there were occasionally 6x1 jackets during the Golden Era, but they were extremely rare. But regardless of the era, it's simply a look I'm not fond of. Just my personal opinion.

What's a 6x1 jacket?

Thanks.

 

[scotrace]

Six buttons on the jacket, one that gets buttoned.

Forgive my earlier impatient sounding note. I know it's frustrating, but the people here who know this stuff won their knowledge by doing hours of hard work and research. There's no way to just pick it up. It takes time to develop an eye. I hope to have a semi developed eye before I am 80.

 

[Feraud]

My understanding is that there were occasionally 6x1 jackets during the Golden Era, but they were extremely rare. But regardless of the era, it's simply a look I'm not fond of. Just my personal opinion.

Do you think they are rare based on surviving examples?

 

[Anthony Jordan]

At a first glance, I would say that A1 looks smart but the waistcoat closes quite "high" to my eye which would suggest, as has been said before, a fairly modern suit. In respect of A2 and B1 (I am guessing these are the 70s suits?) the "v" made by the lapels seems quite low (which is what makes me think 1970s) and is not to my taste, although I wouldn't say that they are significantly dated-looking because of it. Of the double-breasted suits I like B2 better than A3, perhaps just because of your stance when modelling it, but I agree with Stanley in not particularly liking the 6x1 button configuration (I prefer 6x2.) It also seems to me that the lapels are a little narrower that I would go for in suggesting a "vintage" look. I'd also agree that the braces look a little loose on you. Hope that this is helpful.

 

[retrofashion]

Six buttons on the jacket, one that gets buttoned.

Aha. The DB then. Yes, I have seen that type in vintage suits. Actually it was source of comment by a fellow lounger when he saw one in the 1941 Sears catalog post here.

Forgive my earlier impatient sounding note. I know it's frustrating, but the people here who know this stuff won their knowledge by doing hours of hard work and research. There's no way to just pick it up. It takes time to develop an eye. I hope to have a semi developed eye before I am 80.

No problem. I understand where you’re coming from.
Yes, I realize that, and I'm researching as much as I can. But the search engine is not the most intuitive thing around here and google doesn't help much in this time and era where class is becoming more and more a thing of the past. Not easy to find info on vintage fashion.
But on a side note, isn't sharing information the point of a message board/forum?

By the way, any comments on my reply and questions to you?

Thanks again.

 

[scotrace]

Do you think they are rare based on surviving examples?

Here's one - 1941:

 

[scotrace]

They'd pass in some circles for earlier garments. Depends on who you are showing them to.

Use google to search the Fedora Lounge. I've found I can drill right down to what I want every time - but I have the benefit of starting with a dim memory of the specific thread i need.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Do you think they are rare based on surviving examples?

Based on how rare it is to find them in vintage photos/movies/clothing catalogs and fashion mags.


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[Feraud]

Nice. Is this an example of the BOLD LOOK being discussed lately?

Here's one - 1941:

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Almost. That image is from 1941, I believe. It's heading toward the Bold Look. I guess you could say it's transitional.


Speaking of transitions: you can see some great examples of the transition from Bold Look to Continental Look in the suits/sportcoats worn by Desi Arnaz in the later seasons of "I Love Lucy." Big shoulders, long loose fit, lower "v", and windsor knots ... but the lapels are narrower, and the ties are both narrow AND solid colored.

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[retrofashion]

Thanks for jumping in.

At a first glance, I would say that A1 looks smart but the waistcoat closes quite "high" to my eye which would suggest, as has been said before, a fairly modern suit.

I think the high waist coat impression here may come from the fact the person who took the picture was sitting down in a couch when the picture was taken. It’s basically a picture taken a lower angle. I will try the vest again and see now that you mentioned it.

In respect of A2 and B1 (I am guessing these are the 70s suits?) the "v" made by the lapels seems quite low (which is what makes me think 1970s)

No, the 70’s are one of the blazers and the second DB.

and is not to my taste, although I wouldn't say that they are significantly dated-looking because of it.

Well, I was hoping they were all dated-looking.

Of the double-breasted suits I like B2 better than A3, perhaps just because of your stance when modelling it,

Actually, although the pictures do not show it clearly, there are three different people modeling the suits.
I’m the person in the A suits. Then another person in the B suits and a third (and much shorter) person in the C outfits.

I'd also agree that the braces look a little loose on you. Hope that this is helpful.

The suspenders are lose indeed because the trousers being worn with them have no button for the suspenders. So he just tucked them in to get the look. It was just a test.

Thanks.

 

[retrofashion]

Here's one - 1941:

This is the picture I mentioned from the 1941 catalog. I actually have that catalog saved in my HDD along with some other vintage catalogs I found online.
That's a 6x1 from 1941, so they were around.
It was actually why I took the 6x1 DBs (A3 and B2), because I saw there were 6x1 suits in 1941.