Champ milan porkpie

[Dinerman]

I got this in a lot of porkpies the other day. The rest were either too big or too small, but this one is a keeper for sure. I'm trying to keep my personal collection manageable, so I'm switching it in, in exchange for one of my first hats, a modern summer scala porkpie (which isn't really all that nice a hat, and is similar enough, at least in styling, to ditch now that I have this)
The champ is a flat top (do flat top hats count as porkpies?). It has one of the widest, at 2-5/8", and in my opinion, coolest ribbons I've seen. The ribbon is grossgrain, in a salmon hue, with 4 black stripes. It has a back bow, as well.

brown leather sweat, with very redundant marking. One stamp says champ Milan, the other stamp says champ milan imported.

Brim is 2"
crown is 4"

I'm thinking mid '50s.
That sound right to you all?

 

[Marty M.]

Nice lid.

Ooh, I's like's it. So are you selling said hat? What size is it?
Marty Mathis

 

[Dinerman]

selling? the Champ?
no way. mine mine mine mine mine.
This one's unique enough, and fits well enough that It's going to be with me a long time.

the scala- it may go into the "sell" batch eventually, but not just yet.

 

[Marty M.]

Nice lid 2.

Don't blame ya. It's a keeper.
Marty

 

[bolthead]

It's a beautie, for sure....nice find, as usual.

 

[duggap]

Does the back bow put it in the 50s or is it a bit later. Unique ribbon, I can see why you like it. Nice catch. Do you have the same luck fishing?

 

[Dinerman]

Does the back bow put it in the 50s or is it a bit later. Unique ribbon, I can see why you like it. Nice catch. Do you have the same luck fishing?

The back bow was a '50s thing. I'm thinking earlier '50s because of the color of the sweat. Champ switched over to a darker brown sweat in the late '50s, and to a black sweat in the '60s.

^ the one which this thread's about

^ a later, grey Champ milan porkpie.
see the difference?