Can anyone identify Toscanini's hat?

[feltfan]

What a great photo

I doubt it has a particular style name, at least today.
But, man, what a great hat. What a great look. What a
great photo. Thanks for sharing that.

I wonder if I could get Optimo or Art to make me one of those?

 

[Matt Deckard]

I'm guessing you take a fedora and put an enormous ribbon on it, then squeeze the top and curve the sides up. Probably was an open crowned fedora style hat when new and he or his hatter played with the style.

 

[feltfan]

Fedora in the 1800s?

Toscanini was born in 1867. Given the look of the photo and
the apparent age of the subject, I'd guess the photo is from
no later than the mid-1890s. Is it accurate to call a hat from
that time a "fedora"?

That's one odd block... and it looks like the top tapers more
than a fedora blank?

BTW, the wide ribbon seems to have been fairly common in
Italy at the turn of the century, to judge from photographs.

 

[Brad Bowers]

Almost looks like a really wide-brimmed homburg.

Brad

 

[Biltmore Bob]

Could've been a cowboy hat. Looks like it's got a pencil roll to it. Maybe he was into spaghetti westerns

 

[Biltmore Bob]

No joke, I knew that...

yeah right...