Bow Ties

[Nick D]

Ralph Lauren carries some last I looked, and they're an option for Carrot and Gibbs bows at www.greatbows.com. They're more than I can spend on a tie right now, though, and I've found it harder to find old diamond points than new ones!

 

[Tomasso]

I'll throw Charleston Bows out there as they too offer a pointy end option. Hard to find RTW and not priced any cheaper.

 

[Schofields]

both great suggestions, thanks a lot. $55+ for a bow tie is a bit outside my wallet at the moment though

 

[Fletch]

Polo almost always offers diamond bows. There's an eBay seller right now with 8 of them listed. (no link sorry - against regs )

 

[JohnnyGringo]

The Bow Tie Club offers Diamond Point Standard as an option on almost all of their bow ties, and they can certainly be had for less than $40.00-check out their Internet Specials at www.bowtieclub.com.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Vintage 1940s diamond point bowties are on eBay all the time. They go for cheap, too.

 

[Schofields]

that bowtieclub.com site has a price i can handle

i look on ebay occasionaly. i should probably start doing that

 

[pipe23]

I have a few diamond point self tie bow ties and have a question thats been vexing me for a while. Should the tie, after tying, be manipilulated so that both points are at the front, or should one side have the point behind the loop, the other side having the point in front. Does this make any sense?
Is there a "secret" way to tie a diamond point tie that I'm missing? Am I spending way too much time obsessing about this?

 

[Nick D]

Vintage 1940s diamond point bowties are on eBay all the time. They go for cheap, too.

I'll have to keep that in mind to check the US eBay. I've only seen one self-tie pointed tie on the UK eBay, and it was in a pattern I really didn't like [huh]

 

[Macheath]

I have a few diamond point self tie bow ties and have a question thats been vexing me for a while. Should the tie, after tying, be manipilulated so that both points are at the front, or should one side have the point behind the loop, the other side having the point in front. Does this make any sense?
Is there a "secret" way to tie a diamond point tie that I'm missing? Am I spending way too much time obsessing about this?

I was under the impression that self-tied bows will always have the loops and points in reverse order to the other side's. They will still, after all, be symmetrical since the points (in a diamond point) will extend past the loops.

In any case, most bow tie wearers will tell you that perfect symmetry is unbecoming for a self-tied bow, since it makes it look pre-tied.

 

[pipe23]

Macheath, thanks for the clarification, I was leery of wearing my diamond points wrong, now I can sleep at night.:eusa_clap

 

[Lensmaster]

half butterfly bowtie

I recently happened to see a movie from 1938 called The Young in Heart. Something that jumped out at me was in a scene where Douglas Fairbanks, Jr's character is putting on a tuxedo. His tie had the typical butterfly shape on one end but the other end did not, it ended the same width as the neckband part. He tied it normally and finished by tucking that narrow end under his collar. With the quality of the movie it was hard to see but the result was a bow with a loop on one side and flat part of the butterfly on the other side but now mirror parts balancing it off. Has anyone seen anything like this? It appears to me like another example of those crazy young people and their fads.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Has anyone seen anything like this?

Yes. I run into vintage black ones and white ones occasionally. They always seem to be from the 1930s. I don't think they were that uncommon.


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[Nick D]

I've seen these in white and black, but never patterned.

 

[draws]

Self Bow Tie - Problem?

Hello all. I just purchased a black self bow tie and simply cannot figure out how the two pieces come together.

The short section has a simple hook.

The longer section is a straight section with the strap threaded entirely through a rectangular metal piece that has what seems to be a place for the short bow tie section to hook onto. The end of the longer section has a "T" fastener and I simply cannot figure out where that fastens to. Worse yet, I can't figure out how this whole thing comes together so that I can tie it or wear it for that matter.

With all you experts out there, I thought you might advise if I should pick up a self tie without the fasteners forget the hastle or perhaps the solution is simple and I don't have to buy another.
Your HELP!!!!! is appreciated.

 

[David Conwill]

Is there a series of slits along the part with the T? Those are for sizing: The T fits inside them for sizing. The hook is so that once you have it tied, you can use it without tying and untying. It should attach to the long part somewhere, I think I see a loop on there for that purpose.

-Dave

 

[draws]

Well I'll be!!!!!

Is there a series of slits along the part with the T? Those are for sizing: The T fits inside them for sizing. The hook is so that once you have it tied, you can use it without tying and untying. It should attach to the long part somewhere, I think I see a loop on there for that purpose.

-Dave

Dave, Hi fives. Yes, there are slits all over the place. Problem solved!!!!
Now for the tying thing. I'll give it a shot and perhaps respond with more questions. Best and thanks again.

 

[David Conwill]

I learned from a video tutorial on a site called Videojug. Very helpful to see it in 3-D.

-Dave

 

[lairddouglas]

Bowties and GoldAge Movies

the bowtie with the one side straight and one bat wing. That is a formal style tie. You can still find that style from some classic menswear companies.

have seen in the following color/fabric
white Pique
Black silk

 

[Johnnysan]

Here's a great instructional video on YouTube. It saved me from endless frustration...I only wished that I had come across it sooner!