After 6

[Rafter]

I met some friends for drinks this past Friday after work. I was the only one sporting a jacket and a fedora. I was introduced to a woman and she said I was "pimp." She meant it as a compliment because these days being called a pimp is a good thing, I guess.

Well dressed man = pimp.

Guess you've never seen the MTV show "Pimp My Ride". Each episode consists of taking one car in poor condition and restoring it, as well as customizing it.

An episode of Pimp My Ride generally begins with the participant showing his or her car off, and convincing MTV why it needs to be "pimped". After this segment, Rapper Xzibit shows up at the participant's house, takes a look at the car himself, makes wisecracks about the particular things that are wrong with it, and promises the owner a complete makeover of the vehicle.

Each car is a custom "pimp", tailored to the personalities and interests of the owners. For example, a Need for Speed: Underground fan had his car painted to look like one specially customized in the Need for Speed: Underground 2 game, while a bowler had a ball washer installed in his trunk, and a surfer got a full-size dryer (or at least one that fit) in the back of his Volkswagen van. Work usually includes new paint, accessories, chrome, tires and rims, and internal electronics (DVD players, video games, TFT screens of excessive size and other top notch gadgets).


So I guess a well dressed car can also = pimp

 

[Undertow]

So I guess a well dressed car can also = pimp

Well, only when referring to the Transformers character Pimpboticon.

 

[Jovan]

Rafter: Not quite. Just refers to a "pimped out" car. I think that show came around after "being pimp" meant what it does to the youth now. Hence, a pimped out car being decked out to the nines and stylish.

 

[Senator Jack]

Having been around back then, I can say the pedestaling of the 'pimp' culture was a direct result of Snoop Doggy Dogg's (or however he's known) rise to pop culture. Thanks to the fautous powers at MTV and Viacom, kids around the globe thought it pretty cool to have a 'pimp hand'. Ah, America at its best.

 

[hargist]

Having been around back then, I can say the pedestaling of the 'pimp' culture was a direct result of Snoop Doggy Dogg's (or however he's known) rise to pop culture. Thanks to the fautous powers at MTV and Viacom, kids around the globe thought it pretty cool to have a 'pimp hand'. Ah, America at its best.

I shared an elevator with Snoop one time. I work in a building with a lot of entertainment lawyers and he was on my floor. I was wearing my charcoal fedora that day. We got in the elevator and he said he liked my hat.

So if Snoop is to blame for pimp culture, and he liked my hat, maybe I'm "pimp" after all!

 

[Zig2k143]

I was introduced to a woman and she said I was "pimp." She meant it as a compliment because these days being called a pimp is a good thing, I guess.

I've been called a pimp a few times at work when I wear my hats... I just laugh it off.

 

[Rafter]

I think that show came around after "being pimp" meant what it does to the youth now. Hence, a pimped out car being decked out to the nines and stylish.

Personally, I find the finished products on MTV's "Pimp My Ride" quite vulgar.

For some reason, and I can't fatham why, I've been receiving a complementary subscription to "Complex Magazine", which is tagged "the ultimate buyer guide for men"! I don't agree with that association. For me the tag belongs to "Classic Style Mag". Their tag should read the ultimate buyer guide for the "urban" man.

Complex Magazine has lots of adds for sneakers, jeans, assorted cologne and booze, and urban attire clothing lines like Sean John, G-Unit, Russell Simons, etc.

However, what really surprises me are the adds for vehicles. They are very conservative...the Dodge Avenger, Cadillac Escalade, and the new Lincoln MKX. The MKX is the ultimate after 6 vehicle!!

 

[Jovan]

Well, I of course meant stylish in their eyes. :eusa_doh: Heh.

 

[3PieceSuitGuy]

From what I've read and heard ...

In the 30's and 40's in Australia there were rules for dress in particular venues. For example the Theatre. Have you heard the term Dress Circle - I have heard and read that the standards of dress for the "Dress Circle" were tux or tails for the gents and gown for the ladies. The upper part of the theatre, or "The Stalls" was the less dressy part of the theatre.

There is a famous photographer from the 30's and 40's in Sydney called Sam Hood. If you go to http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/picman/ and enter the search terms Sam Hood Evening Dress, you will see a collection of his photos from our favourite period and how people used to dress of an evening for Theatre Openings, Theatre shows, Christmas Parties, 21st Birthdays etc, and mostly it is black tie and white tie. If only it was that way now! You can see that there were standards and people upheld them. You will find it interesting that all the photo's of the Christmas parties are taken in our summer, so you would have been very hot in your tux if you were a gent. But you still wore it. http://www.thefedoralounge.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

If you just search for Sam Hood, you will see a range of his photos from the 30's and 40's that show how people dressed during the day, for weddings and sports etc.

I recommend you have a look, it is a wonderful trip down memory lane.

Anyway my opinion is that most folks at home, would probably relax and take their tie off or dress down a little, but if they had somewhere special to go then it was time to dress to the nines.

Try this link as well it is a search I did for some really great clothing photos.

http://libapp.sl.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/spydus/NAV/PM/BSEARCHPICT/2583/3335

If it comes up click on "Go to Catalogue records"

Cheers,

3pc

 

[3PieceSuitGuy]

How to kill a thread.....

Wow I seem to have a knack for killing a thread just by posting to is.

Seriously guys and girls, check out these photos. The are a great snapshot of Aussie life in Sydney in the 30's to the 50's

Here's a few pics to whet your appetite:

See my post above!

Cheers

Peter

 

[DavidVillaJr]

Loving those pics, looks like so much fun (even if it wasn't).


Checking out the link now..........

dv

 

[Edward]

But having to take a tie OFF to get into a pub? Egregious! More symptoms of British class antagonism, I suppose.

I'd like to ask whereabouts this was in town? It's a fairly common rule in some parts, but especially the areas in and around the city. The "no ties" rule, as far as I'm aware, was a 90s reaction to the appalling behaviour of some city boy types in public houses. Whereas in Glasgow or Belfast certain football shirts and scarves might be banned as folks wearing those were commonly thought of as trouble makers (most particularly if folks from both groups were present at once), city boys in their flash suits and ties were considered to be trouble in parts of London, flashing their cash, becoming very drunk and obnoxious. The collar and tie was considered part of the city boy "uniform", and so to avoid that sort coming in and causing hassle (especially in pubs on the fringes of the city which depended upon local, often working class custom), the "no-tie" dress code came into being. Not a class issue as such (in my experience, veyr many of the city boys are not from the ranks of the middle classes but rather the traditional "worknig class boy made good" types). Actually, it's really the same thing as the suburban shopping malls that have banned the wearing of hoodies as those are popularly associated with trouble maker kids who shoplift and the like (theory being they wear the hood up to impede identification from CCTV footage).

After all...who wants to be a vintage garbage man with a family of 6...when you can pretend you are Gatsby.

:eusa_clap

In the 30's and 40's in Australia there were rules for dress in particular venues. For example the Theatre. Have you heard the term Dress Circle - I have heard and read that the standards of dress for the "Dress Circle" were tux or tails for the gents and gown for the ladies. The upper part of the theatre, or "The Stalls" was the less dressy part of the theatre.

I don't know when it ceased being the case (probably something to do with theatre audiences dwindling, and the West End being largely dependent nowadays on the tourist crowd), but certainly for many years theatre patrons in London would simply have been refused access to their seats in the Dress Circle if they failed to conform to the dress code.

Love those wedding photos - they look so "real life", not like most of the lifeless, overly-posxed shots you seem to get nowadays.