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    My Himel Experience (v2)

    First and foremost, the jackets posted clearly have workmanship errors, bordering on glaringly obvious. I don't see what posting perfect examples has to do with the jackets with errors, or apologizing for that matter. The errors are indisputable. It's like if someone were to post their new...
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    My Himel Experience (v2)

    Eesh, that is unfortunate.
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    Japanese-Made WWII Repro Jackets

    As with many things, intent is everything. I don't get too hung up on things like that, if it looks good it looks good. Vast majority of people have zero idea where the design originated from, if they did, all those people sagging their pants outside of prison wouldn't sag their pants for...
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    First Post, Big thanks and a new Highwayman

    Solid jacket, that leather is beautiful! Great fit as well, welcome!
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    What To Expect From Horsehide (Appearance, Color, Handfeel, etc.)

    Yeah, they will always have a sort of rigid quality to them and never soften into anything like a naked cow or lamb.
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    What To Expect From Horsehide (Appearance, Color, Handfeel, etc.)

    Yeah, I mean I kinda knew what I was getting into, but everyone says oh it breaks in with time, but broken in still means the jacket can still stand on its own, so the tinman feeling while wearing it doesn't really go away. At least with raw denim it does break down and get soft over a lengthy...
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    What To Expect From Horsehide (Appearance, Color, Handfeel, etc.)

    Yeah, from my experiences which is not remotely close to be all encompassing, HH tends to be stiffer and robust than cowhide, my theory is that it's perhaps due to horses being able to live longer vs. cows? But yeah, this will probably be my one and only HH, if I want a teacore/pullup, I'll go...
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    Himel Bros Chevalier bis

    I've had this conversation here before regarding costs. Consider that the cost of enough CXL leather to make a jacket is about 400-500, then you factor in another 50-100 for hardware (I learned quickly that buttons for instance can add up quick), then labor, yeah 1000 doesnt leave a whole lot...
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    What To Expect From Horsehide (Appearance, Color, Handfeel, etc.)

    Mmm, this is a great explanation and gives me more insight on what I'm probably totally missing, and beef jerky comparison is perfect. Yeah, I often wondered what leather that's designed to break in quickly to the point that it's very intentional does in the long run.
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    What To Expect From Horsehide (Appearance, Color, Handfeel, etc.)

    Yeah, I echo alot of what was mentioned. Another comparison could be drawn to denim, the mainstream offerings are essentially broken in, soft, supple, etc etc, whereas alot of expensive raw denim feels like a ba***rd love child of sandpaper and cardboard. Mainstream brands take raw denim and...
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    My 3 year old Highwayman in black CXL Horsehide

    Nice, I like how you said it's having tea, lol.
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    Well, I don't find fault in what you say, but a person needs a ruler to determine 9 vs 8 stitches per inch, I'd say it's a detail that's largely unnoticed except to a very experienced eye. And I disagree, you give an aero maker all the money in the world they can do it. You streamline their...
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    Is that... another rabbit hole I see?
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    I just want to make sure my point wasn't lost. When I did my own research, I quickly learned that paying 2k+ for a jacket wasn't going to yield me a better produced jacket, or at least a practically better produced jacket. After pouring over everyone's photos of all sorts of makers, and talking...
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    Wow, who's the maker?
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    Fedora Lounge Motorcyclists: Safe Gear with a Vintage Vibe

    I got a Simpson Bandit for car track use, because, I am... The Stig. I really wanted the a Simpson helmet for bike riding too, but wound up with a Shoei.
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    My apologies, I made a reckless, over generalizing comment, you are indeed right. Point I was trying to make is that alot of these Japanese brands will outsource the work, and my description of who they commission out to was an over exaggeration. But I'm not being entirely inaccurate, as FW do...
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    Good to know! But my point was almost none of these fabled Japanese brands even make their own stuff, they're all made in a larger scale factory that couldn't be sustained just producing one brand's products.
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    Again, I agree with you 1000%. I don't subscribe to imperfections being character, imperfections are flaws. I don't pay for accidental character, lol. But, I approach handmade, artisanal products with a healthy dose of skepticism, because it's already going to cost more because it does not...
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    Ever think some jackets are overhyped

    Yeah I always thought it was how the zipper was set, and then stretched/misaligned when being used <shrug>.

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