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  1. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Sorry, where I've said horsehide over 3oz doesn't exist I should have clarified front quarter horsehide, which is the only horsehide we stock, besides A-2 horsehide, and the leather in question here. Horween quotes "The strip (a.k.a. bark strip, russet horsehide strip, natural horsebutt strip...
  2. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Exactly, which is why we've put up this statement. Will Lauder, and the cutter at that time knew exactly what they were doing!
  3. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Thanks anyway Andy, but that isn't going to help us identify jackets really.
  4. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    What is your suggestion?
  5. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    I've never been aware of this, all I know is we do say we stock 'heavy front quarter horsehide' which is true, but believe me if we knew someone was advertising it as 4oz we'd have discussed it then and there. There really isn't a definitive date, as we're dealing with the actions of a...
  7. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    I'm working on this now, will post it this morning, but it will be difficult to determine this from photographs. Typically our server was scheduled to be rebooted this morning so I can't access my emails til around 9am, but will be getting back to everyone who has been in touch as soon as I...
  8. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Well, thats not for me to comment on, but Horween and any other tanner of horsehide we've ever known has never been able to make more than 3oz Horsehide.
  9. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    That's pretty much the crux of it yes. Unless he's told you that its 4oz and in reality it's 3oz.
  10. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    3oz is heavy horsehide, and this is the 'heavy horsehide' we've always sold and no one had every wanted anything else. Before Will had taken over, there was never any advertisement of 4oz horsehide, and I've personally never seen him advertising it as this although he's clearly been pushing...
  11. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    We'll try, please email them to me if you can? Especially include some close ups of the leather and anything with any graining would help.
  13. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Thank you Jimmer, you're nothing without being honest in our opinion. The cutter would know the difference instantly as a FQHH skin is around 10sqft as standard whereas a steerhide skin is around 23sqft. Jonny Minto (who has left Aero - to be replaced by a superior former Aero cutter who...
  14. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Please do Matt, it does sound suspect. As I've been telling customers since I've taken over Amandas role dealing with customer orders there is no such thing as horsehide heavier than the 3oz Horween horse we sell as standard FQHH. Tho, way back in 1986-88 there was the odd batch of...
  15. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    As are we Cooperson, and totally appalled. Many companies I'm sure wouldn't come forward about this, but we've always taken an honest stance on whatever is happening. We will always tell the truth.
  16. cloudylemonade

    Horween USA and Aero Leather Joint Statement

    Statement by Skip Horween (President, Horween, USA) and Ken Calder (Chairman of Aero Leather Clothing Ltd (“Aero Leather”). It has been brought to our attention that Will Lauder (former MD of Aero Leather) has been responsible for the mis-selling by Aero Leather of Aero Leather jackets, cut...
  17. cloudylemonade

    Early Aero A2 - Cosmic ordering or goal setting? - my latest find.

    It was the first military, or Aero type Jacket Ken made. He actually made his first leather jacket when he was around 19, and let me tell you that was a LONG time ago ;)
  19. cloudylemonade

    Staff changes at Aero Leather

    Have had a lovely weekend off with only a couple of important mails answered, and the cat is more than happy :)
  20. cloudylemonade

    Early Aero A2 - Cosmic ordering or goal setting? - my latest find.

    Could be made by Ken, or maybe Christine as nobody else made stand collar jacket back then. It's probably made between 1987-89, we didn't have rust knit before 1987 and we changed the label around 1990-92. Christine is returning to Aero in the next 2 weeks, she was one of the finest...
  21. cloudylemonade

    Staff changes at Aero Leather

    Well I'm not here to argue but we do have RIDICULOUS amounts of emails to get through. Of course I will help answer people, but they do need to take into account for detailed mails it takes some time, and pretty often discussion about sizing and modifications before I can get back to people...
  22. cloudylemonade

    What's your favorite Aero liner?

    We do some of the tartans in cotton, for example the Royal Stewart lining. Please specify in your order, or email me next week and I'll look into cottons available.
  23. cloudylemonade

    Staff changes at Aero Leather

    Ha! Sorry, it's in the pile of mails I've got to get measurements for tomorrow. I've only just got to the first page of my emails now after the weekends backlog (and that was working Saturday). I'm away home for the night, but promise it'll be done tomorrow. And anyone else still waiting for...

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