Interesting. I actually find the opposite, that my thin pliable belts stretch and don't actually hold my pants where i want them. I made a belt recently with super stiff and thick hermann oak that will not stretch and it holds my jeans exactly where i want them.
I was tempted, too, but I just don't need them. I've got two great straight zip cals and am getting a trojan repro soon. I'll be quite covered in the collared moto jacket department lol.
This is exactly where I've landed with 5*.
MrProper is one of the nicest people on here. Anyone offended by him is being too sensitive.
I'm very happy with the jacket. I can reliably get a good jacket from 5* that I, the purchaser, consider good value, because I know what to ask for and what I...
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